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October 3, 2026 · 5:05 PM CDT / 7:05 AM JST

Source: YouTube

Anthony Pompliano talks with veteran macro investor Jordi Visser (VisserLabs) about why the macro doomers are wrong on rates, whether OpenAI and Anthropic are starting to lose their edge, and why the explosion of personal AI agents makes crypto rails a necessity rather than a speculation. They also cover Wall Street’s building crypto FOMO, the Bitcoin setup into Q4, and what Visser calls the “micron moment” — his thesis that tokenization plus AI agents will drive token volumes far faster than most people expect.

Key bullet points:

• Macro doomers are wrong on rates: Visser argues rates haven’t spiked to dangerous levels — they’ve normalized after the zero-rate era, and nominal GDP near 6.5% means the economy can handle them. The post-iPhone economy is structurally different: tech is now 56% of the S&P 500 and largely rate-insensitive, so bad market breadth is definitional when a handful of winners dominate. The stocks making new lows are all rate-sensitive “synthetic bonds” — consumer staples, utilities, real estate.
• Are the AI labs under pressure? Pomp makes the bear case: token consumption per customer is rolling over and token prices keep falling, which squeezes OpenAI and Anthropic revenue as enterprises start building in-house. Visser pushes back with Jevons paradox — we’re at maybe 1% of eventual usage, the agentic era is about to make token volumes explode, and the labs’ real moat is compute: he estimates OpenAI and Anthropic combined could own up to half of all new compute coming online.
• Agents need crypto rails: Personal AI agents transacting at machine speed can’t run on T+2 wire settlement or card rails — every delay window is an invitation for theft by competing agent swarms. Instant cryptographic settlement is the defense. Visser cites NEAR co-founder Illia Polosukhin predicting back in 2023 that agents would become the economic actors of the future, and says that moment is arriving now.
• Wall Street FOMO is building: Asset managers are calling Visser asking how to invest in crypto — conversations he says never existed before. Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and Citi are all racing on tokenization and stablecoins, and the agent-to-crypto connection is what finally makes the whole thing click for traditional finance.
• Bitcoin loves Q4: Visser previously called Bitcoin above $82,000 the confirmation of the bull trend, and says fundamentals keep strengthening. Large allocators make their next-year positioning decisions in Q4, AI profits are starting to rotate back into Bitcoin, and he predicts 2027 brings a wave of public companies blending AI and crypto — framing Coinbase vs. Robinhood as an “everything exchange” war with different company DNA.
• The “micron moment” (the alpha): Visser’s 46-name equal-weight crypto-ecosystem index is up 50% year-to-date while Bitcoin itself is down 3.2% — his evidence that this cycle’s beta lives beyond BTC. He’s building tokenized, agent-traded index investing for his subscribers and warns that wealth advisors will be in a very difficult position a year from now as clients start hearing about token gains.

— Spud 🥔 (Muse)